The Carson Pass Management Area
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CPMA information, federal website
The Carson Pass Management Area administers a very small, but a very popular backpacking, hiking, and car camping area due to its extremely accessible beauty.
Backpackers exiting the Lake Tahoe Basin hiking Southbound on the Pacific Crest Trail hike through the edge of the CPMA while the Tahoe to Yosemite Trail cuts right across the heart of the Carson Pass Management Area.
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| Carson Pass Management Area Sign on the way to Winnemucca Lake from Woods Lake |
This special management area mainly affects Tahoe to Yosemite Trail backpackers, who's route crosses the heart of this area as you hike South. I highly suggest you enjoy the beauties of camping beside Round Top Lake on your way South along the Tahoe to Yosemite Trail. The problem is that permits are highly regulated in this area.
The Carson Pass Management Area is incredibly regulated. Preserving the easily accessible stunning beauty here sparked the formation of the CPMA by El Dorado and Toiyabe National Forests to combat overuse. I was stunned (but not surprised) when they even went to the extent of actually assigning campsites.
I understand that the problem comes down to the relationship between the small size of the Round Top hiking area, its easy accessibility from huge and growing population centers, and the large number of people already using it. A balance must be struck.
Very Few Campsites
The CPMA laid out designated campsites to both limit the number of overnight permits and contain the damage of campsites to a few locations. This tiny area administers Winnemucca Lake (three sites), Round Top Lake (six sites), and 4th of July Lake (six sites).
This shortage of sites and very heavy local backpacker traffic means that local backpackers, backpackers hiking in for a weekender or short local trip into or around the Carson Pass Management Area, are lined up every weekend morning during the high Summer Backpacking season at the Carson Pass Cabin to get one of the few permits available.
This presents potential, but not insurmountable problems for long distance backpackers. The solution relies on information and planning.
First, every long-distance permit issued from one National Forest must be honored subsequent NFs that you hike through. Therefore it is very important that you specify "Round Top" or "Fourth of July Lake" as a campsite. This will be honored on your long distance backpacking trip through the Carson Pass Management Area.
Remember, permits for short backpacking trips that start and stay within this small zone centered around Carson Pass can only be had at the Carson Pass Cabin, or the Amador Ranger Station when the Carson Pass Cabin is closed. (contacts) If you are coming in from the East, check with the Carson Ranger District of Toiyabe National Forest Ranger Station.
The Carson Pass Management Area

Trailhead map of the Carson Pass Management Area: Yellow line marks the CPMA, the Green Line marks the boundary of the Mokelumne Wilderness.
Carson Pass Resources
Trail Guide Resources
Trail Guide Page: Carson Pass
Federal Website Resources
El Dorado National Forest: Carson Pass Management Area
El Dorado National Forest Map: Carson Pass Management Area Map (this page has been dumped, again...I'm watching for its return. Apparently the Forest Service cannot stop constantly changing their websites...) |
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The Carson Pass Management Area for Long Distance Backpackers
The Pacific Crest Trail and Tahoe to Yosemite routes
Hikers on both the Tahoe to Yosemite and Pacific Crest Trails will touch the Carson Pass Management Area.
Tahoe to Yosemite Route through the Carson Pass Management Area
Southbound backpackers on the Tahoe to Yosemite Trail route turn Southwest from the Carson Gap to pass through the heart of the Carson Pass Management Area, which is centered on the magnificent Round Top and Sisters massif.
Tahoe to Yosemite Trail hikers are heading South across Round Top and The Sisters to pass through the El Dorado National Forest administered Western Mokelumne Wilderness to Lake Alpine. This route crosses the Western flank of the Sierra Nevada on its way South towards Tuolumne Meadows in Yosemite. You would be hiking South on the other side of the mountain, the Eastern Flank, if you had chosen to hike the Pacific Crest Trail route South out of the Tahoe Basin via Carson Pass. Hiking South from Carson Pass on the Pacific Crest Trail route brings you around the perimeter of the Carson Pass Management Area.
Tahoe to Yosemite Trail hikers walk through the heart of the Carson Pass Management Area over Round Top and past Fourth of July Lake, or possibly Winnemucca Lake, depending on the route you selected as you passed through the Carson Gap on your way over to Summit City Creek.
Your route options.
I recommend spending a night at Round Top Lake to give yourself an early start the next morning through the 9.52 mile unmaintained section of trail between Summit City Creek and Camp Irene. Heck, you should camp at Round Top Lake because regardless of the trail you are hiking, be it the Tahoe to Yosemite or Pacific Crest Trail because it is the finest places to camp for many miles in every direction. Really.
Through Hiker Permits
As you are a hiker passing through multiple National Forests on your way South to Mount Whitney, each subsequent National Forest and Wilderness Area you pass through must honor your original permit. You do not have to get any additional permits after obtaining your permit from the issuing authority of your trailhead. Well, right now, in 2012 at least. For a while the Whitney Zone was requiring that all permits issued with an exit through the Whitney Portal have a "Whitney Stamp" issued by them. That policy ended a number of years ago. I've got a "Whitney Stamp" on one of my Tahoe to Whitney permits from that era. At this time there are no "pre-restrictions" for special zones that I am aware of.
Post up if you are aware of any "double" permit zones in the Sierra Nevada Mountains between Lake Tahoe and Mount Whitney.
The nice folks at the Carson Pass Management Area are very hard-ass about getting permits from them for trips into the CPMA, but they must honor permits issued by other National Forests.
If you want to camp at Round Top or Fourth of July Lake Lake, then make sure that you name it as a campsite on the permit you draw from the permitting authority of your starting trailhead.
The Pacific Crest Trail Route through the Carson Pass Management Area
Hikers on the Pacific Crest Trail just graze the Eastern boundary of the Carson Pass Management Area. The Pacific Crest Trail's route along the Eastern edge of the Carson Pass Management Area puts Round Top Lake 2.14 miles to the West of the Winnemucca Lake trail junction with the Pacific Crest Trail.
I figure that the PCT hiker's Eastern route across the Mokelumne Wilderness to or from Ebbetts Pass makes camping in the Carson Pass Management Area a secondary consideration to their daily quest for mileage, but it is still a possibility. As camping at Round Top Lake is off of the Pacific Crest Trail's route, this side trip will adds a round trip distance of 4.28 miles to your total mileage to and from the Pacific Crest Trail at the Winnemucca Lake trail junction. That distance can be shortened a bit.
I do not hike East back to the Pacific Crest Trail through Winnemucca Lake. Instead I hike North and reconnect with the Pacific Crest Trail entering the Lake Tahoe Basin at the Carson Gap via either the Lost Cabin or the Woods Creek trail routes. The former is steeper and shorter, the latter gentler but longer.
Camping at Round Top Lake may be worth the extra efforts and miles.
Round Top Lake offers camping at the highest altitude (9360 feet), with the best views, and has the nicest environment of all the campsites from Showers Lake (4.79 miles North of Carson Pass), to the series of lakes South of Blue Lake Road. Heck, I don't think Northbound Hikers are going to see anywhere to camp in the 9000 foot elevation range for the rest of the Pacific Crest Trail all the way to Canada. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Round Top will be Pacific Crest Trailers last high altitude campsite!
I enjoy Round Top Lake better than both of those other nearby places to camp, and many others apparently agree with me, judging by the amount of locals there on a Summer weekend.
As backpackers on the Pacific Crest Trail route are going to just scrape the Eastern edge of the Carson Pass Management Area on their way past, I figure that it is unlikely that a serious Pacific Crest Trail hiker will actually veer off the Pacific Crest Trail to camp at Round Top, let alone anywhere else off of the Pacific Crest Trail. This is due to the pressure of time constraints. But I've seen it happen.
If you are hiking the Pacific Crest Trail route in sections or hiking the Lake Tahoe to Mount Whitney trails you have the flexibility to meander a bit off of your route. I can't help but recommend planning a night at Round Top Lake into your itinerary. As I mentioned, it is the highest, if not the finest place to camp for miles in every direction.
Again, if you are hiking long distances, MAKE SURE that you name your Carson Pass Management Area campsite location on your Permit! (i.e., "Round Top Lake.")
I've never worried about naming one of their specific campsites on any of my through permits through here, though I guess I could. The sites are sequentially numbered at each location.
Carson Pass Management Area. As I repeat, a through hiker's subsequent National Forests, Wilderness, and National Parks must honor permits issued by other National Forests and Special Zones. If you did not name a campsite in the Carson Pass Management Area on your original permit you will have to hike to the Carson Cabin to see if an overnight permit is available.
This is true of every location down the trail to the Whitney Portal. Make sure that you specifically name every location, especially locations in crowded location like Yosemite that you want to camp at on your permit. As a through hiker, all permitting authorities, even the ones that are totally "booked up" must honor your permit.
I am not saying that you cannot camp in a place not named on your permit, but it is very important that all of the places that you plan on camping in high-traffic "Special Zones," such as the CPMA, Yosemite, and "The Whitney Zone" should be specifically named on your permit. This will minimize troubles with the Local Ranger Man.
Better safe than disappointed.
Carson Pass Management Area for Short Trips
The Sad Facts about the Carson Pass Management Area: It's Small. It's Crowded.
Permits
Short distance backpackers are served on a first-come, first-served basis at the Carson Pass Management Area. The problem with this is that Carson Pass Management Area is very small has very limited camping for backpackers. There are a grand total of 15 campsites in the whole Carson Pass Management Area. Winnemucca Lake has 3 sites, Round Top Lake has 6 sites, and Fourth of July Lake has 6 sites. Hey, it's a small and intensely beautiful place.
Permits for these sites are not available over the phone, by mail, or by reservation. Permits for trips starting and staying in the Carson Pass Management Area will only be issued at the Carson Pass Cabin during summertime, and at the Amador Ranger Station when the Carson Pass Cabin is closed.
Even with these restrictions the Carson Pass Management Area is busy. Round Top Lake is a premium beautiful high altitude lake very close to both paved roads and the over-grown population of Lake Tahoe.
During Summer weekends the short distance backpacker hoping to camp on Round Top would be well served to have alternative backpacking plans, even if you can get to the Carson Pass Cabin when they open at (8am?). There may be no permits available for folk at the end of the line.
An alternative would be to backpack North from Carson Pass into Meiss Meadow, (In the Lake Tahoe Basin Management Unit, which requires no permits at all!) and continue to the NW on the PCT-TY route towards Showers Lake, or the NE down Christmas Valley towards Round Lake, and on to the South Upper Truckee trail head in Meyers.
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