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Lodgepole Down! With Root Ball, Sayles Canyon Junction.
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and Bryan Meadow Trail Junctions

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North

8905
to
Sayles Canyon Junction
South


Schneiders Camp
junction
7.5 min
Hiking Map


Echo
 Summit
to
Carson
Pass

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MILES
AND
ELEVATIONS
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and

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Bryan Meadow and Sayles Canyon
Trail Junctions

Dropping 240 feet of elevation over .6 of a mile South off of the high point of the trail across Peak 8905 brings us to the Bryan Meadow trail Junction.

This trail leads down through Bryan Meadow to connect with the next trail to our South, the trail running West through Sayles Canyon.

After intersecting the now unified trails run down to Highway 50 East of Camp Sacramento where the Sayles Trailhead is located.

We will continue South through this junction towards the next junction in this series, the Sayles Canyon trail junction .85 of a mile South on our combined TYT-PCT-TRT route.

Hiking Map South
Meiss Country Roadless Area
Trails West to Highway 50
Echo Summit to Round Top & The Sisters

Highway 50
Sayles Canyon Trailhead
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WINTER BACKPACKER ACCESS POINT

This is a great place to gain access to the Sierra Crest from Highway 50 during Spring, Fall, and Winter snow conditions.

Scout the terrain and trails up and down from Highway 50 to the Tahoe Rim carefully during Summer, before attempting snow trips here. Learn the terrain and routes.

Get your fitness and gear together, then begin exploring snow travel as the end of Spring brings gentle conditions.

We will explore earlier during Spring and later into Fall as our cold weather and snow travel skills and experiences evolve.

Echo Summit to Carson Pass
Backpacking Miles and Elevations

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  Well decorated
Mileage Post
at
Bryan Meadow Trail Junction
 
  SOUTH
Showers Lake
4 miles
  WEST
Highway 50
4 miles
  NORTH
Echo Summit
4 miles
 
  Sayles Canyon Junction post, side 1   Sayles Canyon Junction post, side 2   Sayles Canyon Junction post, side 3  
 

Miles: Post says 4 miles to Showers Lake hiking Southbound on the Pacific Crest Trail.

I put it at 3.72 miles.

Miles: The sign puts it at 4 miles to Highway 50 at the Sayles Canyon Trailhead above Camp Sacramento.

I put it at 4.26 miles.

Miles: The trail post puts it at 4 Northbound miles to Echo Summit, back the way we came.

I put it at 3.49 miles.

 
  Echo Summit to Carson Pass
Backpacking Miles and Elevations
   

Video
Coyote Break
at the
Sayles Canyon-Bryan Meadow Trail Junction

A coyote ambled past, stopping to check out some interesting scents, then moved on as I sat quietly and watched.

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Considerations at the Sayles Canyon trail junction

Sayles Canyon Coyote?
Sayles Canyon Coyote.
Fantastic Photo by Bill Finstead

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Information

Bryan Meadow
Trail Junction
with the
Pacific Crest Trail
(TYT & TRT)
Backpacking
the
Meiss Country Roadless Area

Elevation
8520

The sign posts at this junction is labeled with mileages

Mileage
I put the mileage South from Echo Summit at 3.49 miles, while the sign post above has it at 4 miles.

I put the distance South to the Showers Lake Junction at 3.31 (+.4 to the lake equals 3.71) miles, while the sign post above puts it at 5.

The mileage post naming the distance to West to Highway 50 puts the distance West to the Sayles Canyon Trail Road trailhead at 4 miles while I put it at 4.26.

Echo Summit to Carson Pass
Backpacking Miles and Elevations

Echo Summit to Round Top & The Sisters
Map of trails West to Highway 50

MILES AND ELEVATIONS

Winter Route
UPDATE
Finstad Family Expedition
Trip
Into the Tahoe Basin and Back on the Sayles Canyon "Trail." During Winter the more accurate description is following a "Route."

Post your comments-questions-experiences on mapping and miles issues.

Map
and
Mileage
Issues

Explaining the Differences

These differences between my mileage figures and those on these trail posts may very well be because I'm measuring the "modern" route from the Echo Summit Trailhead. These ancient posts may well be measuring out the mileage of the old routes.

As you can see from this 1976 USGS 30 minute topo map of this route, the route has been significantly modified over the last few decades. Compare the 1976 map with the route depicted on the 1992 USGS 7.5 topo map.

The 1976 map shows that the original trailhead was actually at Echo Summit, rather than its present location West of the Summit. The trail also appears to have been lengthened significantly from the footbridge up to the outlook point, and from the outlook to the top of Peak 8905.

The fact is that the mountains are in constant motion, and so too are the trail routes. Forest managers are constantly rerouting trails to stabilize drainages, protect springs and meadows, mostly to limit human-caused damage to the terrain caused by trail erosion.

It's not what human feet do directly to the terrain, but what happens to that damage as the weather goes through its annual cycle. The rains, runoff, and runoff from Spring Thaws expand any cuts or damage on the terrain into raging rivers.

Each of our seemingly minor physical effects on Nature are amplified over time by the physical powers of Nature itself.

These powerful forces translate into rail routes in exposed areas that can change significantly in a very few years, making the USGS maps, trailhead and trail post signs, and trail guide mileage figures inaccurate measurements of a trail's ever-changing length.

Or never-changing. We are also going to hike across great spans of trail cut directly into and through solid rock as we continue South to Whitney. Places where the trail will remain stable until great changes in the weather and the Earth itself resculpts the range.

Post your comments-questions-experiences on mapping and miles issues.

Soft Meadow Soils don't want to hold up the encroaching Lodgepoles

 

The lodgepoles' relentless march into the top of Bryan Meadow around the trail junction is slowed by the soft soils.

But, trees are relentless. Forests move onto rock by using the bodies of their fallen brethren as fertilizer to create soil for their continued march into solid rock.

They have little trouble with meadow.

 
  Lodgepole Down! Root Mat holding a Ring of Soil  
 

The fallen Lodgepole brought up a big root ball up with it.

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2nd Southbound Trail Junction
Sayles Canyon Junction

.85 of a mile South of the Bryan Meadow trail junction

  West       North-South  
  Sayles Canyon trail junction sign post view 1 Sayles Canyon trail junction sign post view 1  
 

Sayles is to the Southbound hiker's Right.

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The sign points South on the TYT-PCT-TYT towards the Schneider's Camp trail junction.  

The Second Junction
Sayles Canyon Trail Junction

Southern Junction

Backpacking
Meiss Country Roadless Area

Elevation
8520 feet.

.85 miles South of the Bryan Meadow trail junction

We have dropped 240 feet in elevation from Peak 8905.

Mileage
4.34 miles South from Echo Summit

2.46 miles South to the Showers Lake Junction. (+.4 of a mile to the lake)

Check out the Map, and Click the Colored Dots for related trail guide page.

Note
As we hike the long trails we come to expect that many of the main trail junctions may have Northern and Southern cut offs.

This means that many trail junctions are not "T" shaped, but "Y" shaped. Well, more accurately, a triangle.

Some of these triangular trail junctions are planned and marked by trail crew, others are cut in by shortcutting backpackers.

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North: Almost to Sayles Canyon Junction                                             South: Schneider's Camp junction

Taking a break with a Coyote

Coming down to the first of two trail junctions tracking West as we come off the upper flank of Peak 8905 brings us to the head of Bryan Meadow.

Though no longer an open meadow at the junction, neither has the forest totally filled in and finally transformed this part of the receding meadow into deep forest.

But the forest is trying!

I stopped and took off my pack and had a smoke and a snack. As I have made a practice of sitting (and hiking) quietly, a medium size coyote ran up from Bryan Meadow, and began scouting about some rocks about 50 yards North of my position.

As soon as the Coyote determined there was nothing of value around the base of the rock formation, he climbed up and over and was gone before I could pull my camera out.

This Coyote was happy, with a big smile on its face. Its fur was thick, and had cinnamon highlights.

7.5 min
Topo Hiking Map


Echo Summit
to
Carson Pass
30 min
Topo Hiking Map

Echo Summit
to
Round Top Lake

Miles
and
Elevations

Next page South
Schneider's Camp junction

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North

Almost
to
Sayles Canyon Junction

Trail Guide Directions on a compass.

Backpacking Trail Guide

South

Schneider's Camp junction

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